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"Capt. JG" wrote in
easolutions:

I think you're a loon. No one that I recall ever said that "jew" was a
hurtful word.


Then why do you all get SO upset whenever someone SAYS IT IN PUBLIC?

Rahm Emanuel. "He's a Jew."

Man that just makes 'em go CRAZY!

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KLC Lewis wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
easolutions...
?? Never said waiter was. Did someone else? I'm not sure what anything has
to do with what a group calls themselves vs. what others call them when
attempting to lump them into some less than human way, but feel free to
explain. If you want to call yourself a Scottish American, go for it. As
far as wasp goes, you probably don't want to use that term around the
rich, white anglosaxon protestants at the local cpuntry club, not if you
want to have any company on the patio anyway.

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Some years ago there was a push to get away from using the words "waiter"
and "waitress," presumedly because "waitress" was considered sexist. So we
instead got terms like "wait staff," "servers," and the rarely-used but
still funny, "waitron."



Like "Stewardess"? Now it has to be "Flight Attendant", which sounds
to me more like the guy in charge of the plane and attending to matters
flight related rather than my gastronomic needs .... sheesh it's getting
stupid.

Cheers
Martin

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On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:21:32 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
.. .
You mean that "waiter" is somehow derogatory? I can't believe that it
is. In my collage days I worked parking cars at a Miami Beach night
club. there were a lot of waiters working there and they used to call
themselves "waiters".

By the way, the "Indians" don't call themselves "Native Americans" in
their own language, why should the rest of us?

And if "Native American" is correct why isn't "Scottish American"
correct in mine? And can I sue anyone that refers to me as a WASP?

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

I was born in America. This makes me a "Native American" as far as I'm
concerned. If that offends anyone, they can take it up with the Great
Spirit.

Yes, most of us are "Native Americans" when you get right down to
brass tacks. In fact the "Native Americans" that people refer to
really weren't the original "Americans" they are as much
Johnny-Come-Lately's as we are and since they gained their position by
slaughtering the previous inhabitants, and in some cases, probably
eating them, I wonder why are we condemned for doing the same to them?

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

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On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:31:55 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
reasolutions...

?? Never said waiter was. Did someone else? I'm not sure what anything has
to do with what a group calls themselves vs. what others call them when
attempting to lump them into some less than human way, but feel free to
explain. If you want to call yourself a Scottish American, go for it. As
far as wasp goes, you probably don't want to use that term around the
rich, white anglosaxon protestants at the local cpuntry club, not if you
want to have any company on the patio anyway.

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Some years ago there was a push to get away from using the words "waiter"
and "waitress," presumedly because "waitress" was considered sexist. So we
instead got terms like "wait staff," "servers," and the rarely-used but
still funny, "waitron."

Another pf my pet peeves. What is sexist about being a woman? After
all they can do things that men can't and men can't do anything that a
woman can't.

If anything it is the men who ought to be complaining about
discrimination.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

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"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Capt. JG" wrote in
easolutions:

I think you're a loon. No one that I recall ever said that "jew" was a
hurtful word.


Then why do you all get SO upset whenever someone SAYS IT IN PUBLIC?

Rahm Emanuel. "He's a Jew."

Man that just makes 'em go CRAZY!



Says what? Oh, you mean that Hitler didn't finish the job. Yes, that's
upsetting.

How come you get so upset when someone calls you a racist?

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"Marty" wrote in message
...
KLC Lewis wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
easolutions...
?? Never said waiter was. Did someone else? I'm not sure what anything
has to do with what a group calls themselves vs. what others call them
when attempting to lump them into some less than human way, but feel
free to explain. If you want to call yourself a Scottish American, go
for it. As far as wasp goes, you probably don't want to use that term
around the rich, white anglosaxon protestants at the local cpuntry club,
not if you want to have any company on the patio anyway.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Some years ago there was a push to get away from using the words "waiter"
and "waitress," presumedly because "waitress" was considered sexist. So
we instead got terms like "wait staff," "servers," and the rarely-used
but still funny, "waitron."

Like "Stewardess"? Now it has to be "Flight Attendant", which sounds to
me more like the guy in charge of the plane and attending to matters
flight related rather than my gastronomic needs .... sheesh it's getting
stupid.

Cheers
Martin


My mom used to call the male flight attendants "stews," which I thought was
pretty funny.

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On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 04:10:40 +0000, Larry wrote:

"Capt. JG" wrote in
reasolutions:

I think you're a loon. No one that I recall ever said that "jew" was a
hurtful word.


Then why do you all get SO upset whenever someone SAYS IT IN PUBLIC?

Rahm Emanuel. "He's a Jew."

Man that just makes 'em go CRAZY!


Funny in a sort of perverse way.

I had a close friend who was Jewish. Actually, to use his words a
"cultural Jew" as his mother was not Jewish,
But anyway, he used the word "Jew" to indicate individuals who were
members of the Jewish religion, and Israeli to refer to individuals
who were citizens of the state of Israel. He once said to me
"Israelis are Jews but Jews are not necessarily Israelis".

If my old mate could call people Jews then I reckon I can too.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
easolutions...
"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
...
You mean that "waiter" is somehow derogatory? I can't believe that it
is. In my collage days I worked parking cars at a Miami Beach night
club. there were a lot of waiters working there and they used to call
themselves "waiters".

By the way, the "Indians" don't call themselves "Native Americans" in
their own language, why should the rest of us?

And if "Native American" is correct why isn't "Scottish American"
correct in mine? And can I sue anyone that refers to me as a WASP?

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

I was born in America. This makes me a "Native American" as far as I'm
concerned. If that offends anyone, they can take it up with the Great
Spirit.

Were you born in Canada, Mexicon, the US, or in Central or South America?

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As everyone worth anything knows, there is only one "America." The others
aren't even worth mentioning. ;-)

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"Marty" wrote in message
...
wrote:
"Server" is a derogatory term implying indenture, to wit "servitude", or
slavery if you will; they must here after be referred to as "gustatory
assistants"

Cheers
Martin

Hmmm. This would imply that we are in need of assistance, which would make
restaurant patrons the "gustatorily challenged." Please don't get any of
that on my bib.

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"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
...
Another pf my pet peeves. What is sexist about being a woman? After
all they can do things that men can't and men can't do anything that a
woman can't.

If anything it is the men who ought to be complaining about
discrimination.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

While out driving:

Me: "Rest stop ahead. Want to stop?"
Hubby: "Yeah, I could stand to pee."
Me: "That must be convenient."

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"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 04:10:40 +0000, Larry wrote:

"Capt. JG" wrote in
areasolutions:

I think you're a loon. No one that I recall ever said that "jew" was a
hurtful word.


Then why do you all get SO upset whenever someone SAYS IT IN PUBLIC?

Rahm Emanuel. "He's a Jew."

Man that just makes 'em go CRAZY!


Funny in a sort of perverse way.

I had a close friend who was Jewish. Actually, to use his words a
"cultural Jew" as his mother was not Jewish,
But anyway, he used the word "Jew" to indicate individuals who were
members of the Jewish religion, and Israeli to refer to individuals
who were citizens of the state of Israel. He once said to me
"Israelis are Jews but Jews are not necessarily Israelis".

If my old mate could call people Jews then I reckon I can too.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


Why would anyone think that's a problem? Larry isn't just calling someone
who's jewish a jew is he.

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On Jan 17, 7:17*pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message

...





"Capt. JG" wrote in
ions:

This seems to imply that the meaning of words don't change over time
and across societies. They do. Thus, using a word in the 1800s might
be fine, but using the same word in the 21st century could easily be
wrong and hurtful. Equating the use of the word waiter to the N word
isn't really a valid comparison. If anyone thinks it is, then they're
being disingenious to make a point or they're just plain dumb.

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Is "Jew" one of those hurtful words since the infiltration of the US
Government? *Why does that always result in an attack, no matter how you
say it?

I think you're a loon. No one that I recall ever said that "jew" was a
hurtful word.

You believe that conspiracies are everywhere, apparently.

I'm just wondering what the hell happened to you for you to be so hateful
toward an entire race.

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John, perhaps you should read what Larry wrote.

If you had your shipmates killed in a questionable way you too might
hold a grudge until justice is served.

I havent researched what happened to larrys shipmates enough to know
the truth, but there is alot of questionable evidence and accounts of
what happened.

Larry seems pretty smart when it comes to electronics, everyone seeks
him out here for that talent, that talent was in high demand on the
type of ship his shipmates were killed on.

Larry needs to find a better way, place to channel his fustration.

The Captain words were
"It appears to me that it was not a pure case of mistaken
identity."
-- Captain William L. McGonagle,

I tend to accept the word of the man in charge, not being there.

Perhaps he should seek out his shipmates and find a better way to sort
out the facts.
He should reign in his anger, it's only hurting him and his efforts to
find the facts...IMO

Joe

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On 18 Jan 2009 13:10:02 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:40:01 -0500, said:

Waiter isn't derogatory. It's sexist. They call them all "waitpersons"
now, or if that's too clumsy, they call them "servers".

I don't. It's either a waiter or a waitress. And if that offend those
present, tough ****.

I don't recommend that you call them, "tough ****". You may find
yourself on the curb pretty quickly.

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:22:41 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

?? Never said waiter was. Did someone else? I'm not sure what anything has
to do with what a group calls themselves vs. what others call them when
attempting to lump them into some less than human way, but feel free to
explain. If you want to call yourself a Scottish American, go for it. As
far
as wasp goes, you probably don't want to use that term around the rich,
white anglosaxon protestants at the local cpuntry club, not if you want to
have any company on the patio anyway.

Nonsense.

A proud WOP.


Uh huh. Thought so . . .

Wilbur Hubbard

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On 18 Jan 2009 13:10:02 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:40:01 -0500, said:

Waiter isn't derogatory. It's sexist. They call them all "waitpersons"
now, or if that's too clumsy, they call them "servers".

I don't. It's either a waiter or a waitress. And if that offend those
present, tough ****.

Anything polite to get their attention.
"Waiter"
"Waitress"
"Garcon"
"Miss"
"Mister"
"Honey"
"Doll"
"Friend"
"Pal"
"Joe"
"Mac"
"Bub"
Depends how you say it. And a smile can erase misinterpretation.
The biggest politeness is in the tip.
But if you have to actually think about how to address somebody,
you've probably already lost the PC battle.

--Vic

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Joe wrote in news:cf147bba-c750-4151-bb6d-
:

I havent researched what happened to larrys shipmates enough to know
the truth, but there is alot of questionable evidence and accounts of
what happened.



http://www.gtr5.com/

Straight information from the crew's own mouth who survived both
attacks.

Captain McGonagle is the ONLY Congressional Medal of Honor winner, our
highest honor, that DIDN'T get his medal in the Oval Office of the White
House in full view of the press, the people and the world. His medal
came in a secret, guarded ceremony in the Washington Navy Yard so we
wouldn't upset the Zionists who run our government from Israel.

The words you see on gtr5.com are the words of the men who lived through
it. You'll also find, on that page, open testimony of radio
communications people who monitored the event at their various Navy
communications stations between the Med and America. Theirs is also
first-hand testimony.

Threatening the crew with prison if they opened their mouths only added
resolve to their getting the word out all these years in honor of their
fallen shipmates.

================================================== ====================

This morning there are some real horror tales of genocide coming out of
Gaza. One man was directed by Isreali soldiers to leave his house and
take all his relatives to another house nearby "for safety". While he
was out searching for water to give to the starving children, the
Israeli monsters bombed the very house the soldiers told him to put his
family in, killing 27 members all together when the building simply
imploded with the blast from an Israeli bomb. Every American who has
any concience at all needs to be watching the news reports from Al
Jazeera on:

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

Aljazeera is the only news agency that was already in Gaza before the
Israelis locked up the border in an attempt to keep the world from
seeing the atrocities they are committing against innocent women and
children.

As of noon, they had found 92 more bodies buried in the rubble, but
every time they start digging, as you can see on the live video feeds,
israeli soldiers show up and run off the rescuers in panic, scared to
death they'll kill them, too.

Hamas stupid idiots fired off 3 more rockets trying to provoke more
atrocities from the Israelis into Israel. All of them should be shot,
saving lives. Enough is enough.

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Dave wrote in
:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:42:13 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok
said:

The term shabbos goy refers to a non-Jew who performs duties that
Jewish law forbids a Jew from performing on the Sabbath; typically,
lighting a fire to warm a house.

Where I live there's no need for that. We have things called
thermostats. However, since turning lights off or on is forbidden on
the Sabbath, orthodox Jews sometimes hire a goy to come in and do
that.

I also learned very recently what the difference is between a regular
elevator and a Sabbath elevator. The latter stops at every floor so
there is no need to perform the forbidden work of pressing the
elevator button.


They don't seem to have any trouble pressing buttons on Saturday over Gaza.
The guns and launchers don't launch themselves.

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Shipmates? He and his shipmates were attacked by hordes of jews? Maybe Rahm
Emanuel attached him while they slept.

"Joe" wrote in message
...
On Jan 17, 7:17 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:

John, perhaps you should read what Larry wrote.

If you had your shipmates killed in a questionable way you too might
hold a grudge until justice is served.

I havent researched what happened to larrys shipmates enough to know
the truth, but there is alot of questionable evidence and accounts of
what happened.

Larry seems pretty smart when it comes to electronics, everyone seeks
him out here for that talent, that talent was in high demand on the
type of ship his shipmates were killed on.

Larry needs to find a better way, place to channel his fustration.

The Captain words were
"It appears to me that it was not a pure case of mistaken
identity."
-- Captain William L. McGonagle,

I tend to accept the word of the man in charge, not being there.

Perhaps he should seek out his shipmates and find a better way to sort
out the facts.
He should reign in his anger, it's only hurting him and his efforts to
find the facts...IMO

Joe




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"Joe" wrote in message
...
On Jan 17, 7:17 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:

snip

I guess he forgot about the apology.... oh well....

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:22:40 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

Some years ago there was a push to get away from using the words
"waiter"
and "waitress," presumedly because "waitress" was considered sexist. So
we
instead got terms like "wait staff," "servers," and the rarely-used but
still funny, "waitron."



I always call them a wait person.

Why is no one surprised at that?


You left off the "where's my f*ckin eggs" part....

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:22:41 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

?? Never said waiter was. Did someone else? I'm not sure what anything has
to do with what a group calls themselves vs. what others call them when
attempting to lump them into some less than human way, but feel free to
explain. If you want to call yourself a Scottish American, go for it. As
far
as wasp goes, you probably don't want to use that term around the rich,
white anglosaxon protestants at the local cpuntry club, not if you want to
have any company on the patio anyway.

Nonsense.

A proud WASP.


You haven't been to many country clubs...

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wrote in message
...
On 18 Jan 2009 13:10:02 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:40:01 -0500, said:

Waiter isn't derogatory. It's sexist. They call them all "waitpersons"
now, or if that's too clumsy, they call them "servers".

I don't. It's either a waiter or a waitress. And if that offend those
present, tough ****.

I don't recommend that you call them, "tough ****". You may find
yourself on the curb pretty quickly.



Now that's funny!

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On 18 Jan 2009 13:10:02 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:40:01 -0500, said:

Waiter isn't derogatory. It's sexist. They call them all "waitpersons"
now, or if that's too clumsy, they call them "servers".

I don't. It's either a waiter or a waitress. And if that offend those
present, tough ****.

Anything polite to get their attention.
"Waiter"
"Waitress"
"Garcon"
"Miss"
"Mister"
"Honey"
"Doll"
"Friend"
"Pal"
"Joe"
"Mac"
"Bub"
Depends how you say it. And a smile can erase misinterpretation.
The biggest politeness is in the tip.
But if you have to actually think about how to address somebody,
you've probably already lost the PC battle.

--Vic


How about jerk-off....

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"Larry" wrote in message
...
Dave wrote in
:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:42:13 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok
said:

The term shabbos goy refers to a non-Jew who performs duties that
Jewish law forbids a Jew from performing on the Sabbath; typically,
lighting a fire to warm a house.

Where I live there's no need for that. We have things called
thermostats. However, since turning lights off or on is forbidden on
the Sabbath, orthodox Jews sometimes hire a goy to come in and do
that.

I also learned very recently what the difference is between a regular
elevator and a Sabbath elevator. The latter stops at every floor so
there is no need to perform the forbidden work of pressing the
elevator button.


They don't seem to have any trouble pressing buttons on Saturday over
Gaza.
The guns and launchers don't launch themselves.



Neither does Hamas, so I guess they're jews too.

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"Joe" wrote in message
...
snip

Here's the real story...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident (note the millions paid,
the apology, the multiple investigations). I guess Larry just can't get over
it, which is sad, but to blame people who weren't even born yet is
disgusting and pathetic.

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"Larry" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote in news:cf147bba-c750-4151-bb6d-
:

I havent researched what happened to larrys shipmates enough to know
the truth, but there is alot of questionable evidence and accounts of
what happened.



http://www.gtr5.com/

Straight information from the crew's own mouth who survived both
attacks.

Captain McGonagle is the ONLY Congressional Medal of Honor winner, our
highest honor, that DIDN'T get his medal in the Oval Office of the White
House in full view of the press, the people and the world. His medal
came in a secret, guarded ceremony in the Washington Navy Yard so we
wouldn't upset the Zionists who run our government from Israel.

The words you see on gtr5.com are the words of the men who lived through
it. You'll also find, on that page, open testimony of radio
communications people who monitored the event at their various Navy
communications stations between the Med and America. Theirs is also
first-hand testimony.

Threatening the crew with prison if they opened their mouths only added
resolve to their getting the word out all these years in honor of their
fallen shipmates.

================================================== ====================

This morning there are some real horror tales of genocide coming out of
Gaza. One man was directed by Isreali soldiers to leave his house and
take all his relatives to another house nearby "for safety". While he
was out searching for water to give to the starving children, the
Israeli monsters bombed the very house the soldiers told him to put his
family in, killing 27 members all together when the building simply
imploded with the blast from an Israeli bomb. Every American who has
any concience at all needs to be watching the news reports from Al
Jazeera on:

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

Aljazeera is the only news agency that was already in Gaza before the
Israelis locked up the border in an attempt to keep the world from
seeing the atrocities they are committing against innocent women and
children.

As of noon, they had found 92 more bodies buried in the rubble, but
every time they start digging, as you can see on the live video feeds,
israeli soldiers show up and run off the rescuers in panic, scared to
death they'll kill them, too.

Hamas stupid idiots fired off 3 more rockets trying to provoke more
atrocities from the Israelis into Israel. All of them should be shot,
saving lives. Enough is enough.


If nothing else.....why would you start a 'war' when your 'military' is so
ineffective?
What is it..100:1 kill ratio? Odd that Hamas isn't better at what they
do...they certainly get enough practice.

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Don White wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote in news:cf147bba-c750-4151-bb6d-
:

I havent researched what happened to larrys shipmates enough to know
the truth, but there is alot of questionable evidence and accounts of
what happened.


http://www.gtr5.com/

Straight information from the crew's own mouth who survived both
attacks.

Captain McGonagle is the ONLY Congressional Medal of Honor winner, our
highest honor, that DIDN'T get his medal in the Oval Office of the White
House in full view of the press, the people and the world. His medal
came in a secret, guarded ceremony in the Washington Navy Yard so we
wouldn't upset the Zionists who run our government from Israel.

The words you see on gtr5.com are the words of the men who lived through
it. You'll also find, on that page, open testimony of radio
communications people who monitored the event at their various Navy
communications stations between the Med and America. Theirs is also
first-hand testimony.

Threatening the crew with prison if they opened their mouths only added
resolve to their getting the word out all these years in honor of their
fallen shipmates.

================================================== ====================

This morning there are some real horror tales of genocide coming out of
Gaza. One man was directed by Isreali soldiers to leave his house and
take all his relatives to another house nearby "for safety". While he
was out searching for water to give to the starving children, the
Israeli monsters bombed the very house the soldiers told him to put his
family in, killing 27 members all together when the building simply
imploded with the blast from an Israeli bomb. Every American who has
any concience at all needs to be watching the news reports from Al
Jazeera on:

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

Aljazeera is the only news agency that was already in Gaza before the
Israelis locked up the border in an attempt to keep the world from
seeing the atrocities they are committing against innocent women and
children.

As of noon, they had found 92 more bodies buried in the rubble, but
every time they start digging, as you can see on the live video feeds,
israeli soldiers show up and run off the rescuers in panic, scared to
death they'll kill them, too.

Hamas stupid idiots fired off 3 more rockets trying to provoke more
atrocities from the Israelis into Israel. All of them should be shot,
saving lives. Enough is enough.


If nothing else.....why would you start a 'war' when your 'military' is so
ineffective?
What is it..100:1 kill ratio? Odd that Hamas isn't better at what they
do...they certainly get enough practice.



I guess Larry the electronics whiz can't get BBC World Service, they
have people there......

Cheers
Martin

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Larry wrote:
Joe wrote in news:cf147bba-c750-4151-bb6d-
:

I havent researched what happened to larrys shipmates enough to know
the truth, but there is alot of questionable evidence and accounts of
what happened.



http://www.gtr5.com/

Straight information from the crew's own mouth who survived both
attacks.

Captain McGonagle is the ONLY Congressional Medal of Honor winner, our
highest honor, that DIDN'T get his medal in the Oval Office of the White
House in full view of the press, the people and the world. His medal
came in a secret, guarded ceremony in the Washington Navy Yard so we
wouldn't upset the Zionists who run our government from Israel.

The words you see on gtr5.com are the words of the men who lived through
it. You'll also find, on that page, open testimony of radio
communications people who monitored the event at their various Navy
communications stations between the Med and America. Theirs is also
first-hand testimony.

Threatening the crew with prison if they opened their mouths only added
resolve to their getting the word out all these years in honor of their
fallen shipmates.

================================================== ====================

This morning there are some real horror tales of genocide coming out of
Gaza. One man was directed by Isreali soldiers to leave his house and
take all his relatives to another house nearby "for safety". While he
was out searching for water to give to the starving children, the
Israeli monsters bombed the very house the soldiers told him to put his
family in, killing 27 members all together when the building simply
imploded with the blast from an Israeli bomb. Every American who has
any concience at all needs to be watching the news reports from Al
Jazeera on:

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

That is the place to see all the fabricated videos of known, obvious
liars who have vowed to wipe all innocent people who don't follow their
religion off the face of the earth.

Aljazeera is the only news agency that was already in Gaza before the
Israelis locked up the border in an attempt to keep the world from
seeing the atrocities they are committing against innocent women and
children.

As of noon, they had found 92 more bodies buried in the rubble, but
every time they start digging, as you can see on the live video feeds,
israeli soldiers show up and run off the rescuers in panic, scared to
death they'll kill them, too.

Hamas stupid idiots fired off 3 more rockets trying to provoke more
atrocities from the Israelis into Israel. All of them should be shot,
saving lives. Enough is enough.

Just three? Why, any country should be able to tolerate three rockets
fired at their civilians shouldn't they? Israel put up with 10,000
before they attacked this time, shouldn't they wait for 10,000 more
before they attack again?

Stephen

Message to the Moderator
 

Marty wrote in
:

I guess Larry the electronics whiz can't get BBC World Service, they
have people there......

Cheers
Martin



Palestinians, for really good reasons including war crimes that have
never been prosecuted, aren't particularly fond of Brits, who stole
their lands in 1948 and gave them to the Jews. So, their coverage can't
hold a candle to what the Aljazeera reporters are showing us.

If you haven't watched Al Jazeera's English broadcasts in the last year
or two, you are in for a shock. Gone are the hate broadcasts. The
video coverage of Middle East and Asia are unequaled.

I don't understand quite what I'm looking at, at the moment. The video
is on the Lebanese border and Palestinians on one side of the barbed
wire are not allowed to go see Palestinians on the other side of the
barbed wire, so thousands of kids, old ladies, old men, and mostly split
up familes are having reunions through the Israeli barbed wire, mostly
ignoring the Zionist troops trying to drive them back....at least while
the Aljazeera cameras are rolling in real close up of reuniting familes
that haven't seen each other for years and years, it seems. One old
lady discovered her daughter she hadn't seen in 18 years.

What Aljazeera did was give Panasonic small video cams to these
Palestinian kids and told them to take videos of their lives. It's
quite odd, actually. I don't see a single terrorist amoung the typical
teenage girls reading letters from their boyfriends, the walls of their
rooms looking just like American girls' rooms lined with posters and
pictures of their favorite stars.

Download the Livestation player for free from:
http://www.livestation.com/
and install it on your computer. You even get BBC World Service,
filtered by the New World Order like American TV. You know, the station
that reported World Trade Center BUILDING 7 HAD COLLAPSED 20 MINUTES
BEFORE THE EVENT? Think they'd lie to us? They just had their cues
wrong. That day, my respect for BBC evaporated.

Palestinian boys are teasing one of their friends over Farah, who seems
to be the girl 2 of them want. Kids are no different any place in the
world, once the murderous adults and their stupid superstitions are not
watching them......

Message to the Moderator
 

WaIIy wrote in
:

On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:50:57 +0000, Larry wrote:


What Aljazeera did was give Panasonic small video cams to these
Palestinian kids and told them to take videos of their lives. It's
quite odd, actually. I don't see a single terrorist amoung the typical
teenage girls reading letters from their boyfriends, the walls of their
rooms looking just like American girls' rooms lined with posters and
pictures of their favorite stars.

Duh, Larry.

What did you expect ?


Bloodthirsty Arab terrorist kids with dynamite duct taped to their little
bodies hunkering down at the border to blow themselves up.

That's what NBC shows on TV....

Message to the Moderator
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
WaIIy wrote in
:

On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:50:57 +0000, Larry wrote:


What Aljazeera did was give Panasonic small video cams to these
Palestinian kids and told them to take videos of their lives. It's
quite odd, actually. I don't see a single terrorist amoung the typical
teenage girls reading letters from their boyfriends, the walls of their
rooms looking just like American girls' rooms lined with posters and
pictures of their favorite stars.

Duh, Larry.

What did you expect ?


Bloodthirsty Arab terrorist kids with dynamite duct taped to their little
bodies hunkering down at the border to blow themselves up.

That's what NBC shows on TV....



Why? Are you an Israeli under cover? LOL

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Message to the Moderator
 

On Jan 18, 3:35*pm, Larry wrote:
Joe wrote in news:cf147bba-c750-4151-bb6d-
:

I havent researched what happened to larrys shipmates enough to know
the truth, but there is alot of questionable evidence and accounts of
what happened.

http://www.gtr5.com/

Straight information from the crew's own mouth who survived both
attacks.

Captain McGonagle is the ONLY Congressional Medal of Honor winner, our
highest honor, that DIDN'T get his medal in the Oval Office of the White
House in full view of the press, the people and the world. *His medal
came in a secret, guarded ceremony in the Washington Navy Yard so we
wouldn't upset the Zionists who run our government from Israel.

The words you see on gtr5.com are the words of the men who lived through
it. *You'll also find, on that page, open testimony of radio
communications people who monitored the event at their various Navy
communications stations between the Med and America. *Theirs is also
first-hand testimony.

Threatening the crew with prison if they opened their mouths only added
resolve to their getting the word out all these years in honor of their
fallen shipmates.

================================================== ====================

This morning there are some real horror tales of genocide coming out of
Gaza. *One man was directed by Isreali soldiers to leave his house and
take all his relatives to another house nearby "for safety". *While he
was out searching for water to give to the starving children, the
Israeli monsters bombed the very house the soldiers told him to put his
family in, killing 27 members all together when the building simply
imploded with the blast from an Israeli bomb. *Every American who has
any concience at all needs to be watching the news reports from Al
Jazeera on:

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

Aljazeera is the only news agency that was already in Gaza before the
Israelis locked up the border in an attempt to keep the world from
seeing the atrocities they are committing against innocent women and
children.

As of noon, they had found 92 more bodies buried in the rubble, but
every time they start digging, as you can see on the live video feeds,
israeli soldiers show up and run off the rescuers in panic, scared to
death they'll kill them, too.

Hamas stupid idiots fired off 3 more rockets trying to provoke more
atrocities from the Israelis into Israel. *All of them should be shot,
saving lives. *Enough is enough.

Again Larry, your anger towards a race of people is only hurting you,
and adding nothing to your cause or effort to find the truth, or to
get anyone to admit the truth of what happened to the USS Liberty.

Maybe you should take the advice of a young lady who learned what real
evil was, and how to deal with it in a positive way.

"How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before
starting to improve the world."

"The best remedy for those who are afraid, lonely or unhappy is to go
outside (For you sailing), somewhere where they can be quiet, alone
with the heavens, nature and God. Because only then does one feel that
all is as it should be."

Anne Frank